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		<title>By: Trackboy1</title>
		<link>http://www.bloglanta.com/archives/160#comment-542</link>
		<dc:creator>Trackboy1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Nov 2006 05:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://decaonline.tripod.com/Pages/Minutes/4-25-02.pdf

April 25, 2002
DECA Quarterly Meeting Minutes

• Vernon Jones (DeKalb County CEO):

Can you update us on ACOD (Airport Compatibility Overlay District)?

It is not even being discussed and was never an agenda item for a Commission meeting (may have been on the Planning Commission agenda; he will apologize if he is wrong about that); there will have to be a number of public hearings before it goes any further.

The airport brings in over $3 million/year, much of which goes to the schools and City of Chamblee.

The Commissioners will NOT vote to expand the airport.

Planes coming in after the volunteer curfew (11 pm) is a federal issue; planes over 75,000 pounds have to call in for permission to land.</description>
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<p>April 25, 2002<br />
DECA Quarterly Meeting Minutes</p>
<p>• Vernon Jones (DeKalb County CEO):</p>
<p>Can you update us on ACOD (Airport Compatibility Overlay District)?</p>
<p>It is not even being discussed and was never an agenda item for a Commission meeting (may have been on the Planning Commission agenda; he will apologize if he is wrong about that); there will have to be a number of public hearings before it goes any further.</p>
<p>The airport brings in over $3 million/year, much of which goes to the schools and City of Chamblee.</p>
<p>The Commissioners will NOT vote to expand the airport.</p>
<p>Planes coming in after the volunteer curfew (11 pm) is a federal issue; planes over 75,000 pounds have to call in for permission to land.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://www.bloglanta.com/archives/160#comment-541</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Nov 2005 06:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The biggest loosers after the workers is not PDK and the County is not the entity that will save the day.  The plant comprises more than one-third of the tax base of the City of Doraville. There are over three hundred buisnesses that depend on the plant, so the total impact still isn't known. Sleazeball Jones wont even pay the cities the money DeKalb County owes them under an intergovernmental agreement for capital projects, don't count on him to help Doraville. This will be a challenge that Mayor Jenkins and others in Doraville must meet or the city will likely die.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The biggest loosers after the workers is not PDK and the County is not the entity that will save the day.  The plant comprises more than one-third of the tax base of the City of Doraville. There are over three hundred buisnesses that depend on the plant, so the total impact still isn&#8217;t known. Sleazeball Jones wont even pay the cities the money DeKalb County owes them under an intergovernmental agreement for capital projects, don&#8217;t count on him to help Doraville. This will be a challenge that Mayor Jenkins and others in Doraville must meet or the city will likely die.</p>
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		<title>By: Chad Magnussen</title>
		<link>http://www.bloglanta.com/archives/160#comment-540</link>
		<dc:creator>Chad Magnussen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2005 17:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The real losers are the GM employees. Most of the assembly line workers were making good salaries comparable to many college graduates, when in fact their level of higher education was minimal. I would assume some of the older workers are not even high school graduates.

Why were these employees so generously compensated? One word-- UNIONS. If it were not for the courageous and valiant efforts of American unions, American workers would have a reduced standard of living--A WAL-MART STANDARD OF LIVING.

Fortune 500 companies loathe unions, and for good reason. Paying workers higher salaries may reduce top management's salaries a million or two a year.

Republicans tend to be anti-union, and workers are being shafted in the process. American workers can essentially kiss their pensions goodbye. If you're counting on a pension, let's just say you better be clipping more coupons out of the newspaper.

General Motors, the company itself, really deserves bankruptcy. What company deserves to stay in business when they've been hatching out ugly cars for over a decade, and the quality is mediocre at best?

I've got two suggestions with the demise of the GM plant:

1. Tear the plant down and add an additional 10 lanes to I-285. Exiting Peachtree Industrial Blvd. on to I-285 is a nightmare, and a lot of the conjestion would be eliminated with 20 lanes.

2. Wal-Mart can build a super store at the plant site. Former GM employees would be on cloud nine working for Wal-Mart. Excellent salaries--$50,000 to $75,000 range and superior health insurance benefits. Cough! Cough! It's very unfortunate that a Wal-Mart super store is currently being built on Ashford-Dunwoody, because the GM plant in Doraville would have saved Wal-Mart millions of dollars. More money in the Walton's bank accounts would be supporting the anti-union movement. So sad!!!!!!

Chad</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real losers are the GM employees. Most of the assembly line workers were making good salaries comparable to many college graduates, when in fact their level of higher education was minimal. I would assume some of the older workers are not even high school graduates.</p>
<p>Why were these employees so generously compensated? One word&#8211; UNIONS. If it were not for the courageous and valiant efforts of American unions, American workers would have a reduced standard of living&#8211;A WAL-MART STANDARD OF LIVING.</p>
<p>Fortune 500 companies loathe unions, and for good reason. Paying workers higher salaries may reduce top management&#8217;s salaries a million or two a year.</p>
<p>Republicans tend to be anti-union, and workers are being shafted in the process. American workers can essentially kiss their pensions goodbye. If you&#8217;re counting on a pension, let&#8217;s just say you better be clipping more coupons out of the newspaper.</p>
<p>General Motors, the company itself, really deserves bankruptcy. What company deserves to stay in business when they&#8217;ve been hatching out ugly cars for over a decade, and the quality is mediocre at best?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got two suggestions with the demise of the GM plant:</p>
<p>1. Tear the plant down and add an additional 10 lanes to I-285. Exiting Peachtree Industrial Blvd. on to I-285 is a nightmare, and a lot of the conjestion would be eliminated with 20 lanes.</p>
<p>2. Wal-Mart can build a super store at the plant site. Former GM employees would be on cloud nine working for Wal-Mart. Excellent salaries&#8211;$50,000 to $75,000 range and superior health insurance benefits. Cough! Cough! It&#8217;s very unfortunate that a Wal-Mart super store is currently being built on Ashford-Dunwoody, because the GM plant in Doraville would have saved Wal-Mart millions of dollars. More money in the Walton&#8217;s bank accounts would be supporting the anti-union movement. So sad!!!!!!</p>
<p>Chad</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph G</title>
		<link>http://www.bloglanta.com/archives/160#comment-539</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2005 23:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bloglanta.com/archives/160#comment-539</guid>
		<description>Well, the plant's going to be open through 2008, so I think that the workers should have some time to make plans about what they want to do in the next phases of their career.

Doraville's mayor has apparently been talking about getting a Japanese auto maker in the Doraville facility.  Personally, I don't see this happening, because the land (and wages) costs so much now.

I agree with DG that an Atlantic Station-type development would be the most beneficial for the city (or at least for &lt;em&gt;my&lt;/em&gt; property values), but it'll take a lot to get something like that off the ground.  I'm not certain that the city/county leaders are up to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the plant&#8217;s going to be open through 2008, so I think that the workers should have some time to make plans about what they want to do in the next phases of their career.</p>
<p>Doraville&#8217;s mayor has apparently been talking about getting a Japanese auto maker in the Doraville facility.  Personally, I don&#8217;t see this happening, because the land (and wages) costs so much now.</p>
<p>I agree with DG that an Atlantic Station-type development would be the most beneficial for the city (or at least for <em>my</em> property values), but it&#8217;ll take a lot to get something like that off the ground.  I&#8217;m not certain that the city/county leaders are up to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Elaine</title>
		<link>http://www.bloglanta.com/archives/160#comment-538</link>
		<dc:creator>Elaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2005 19:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it's sad that all of these people are losing their jobs, especially around the holidays. Maybe with the big tourism push in Atlanta, more jobs will be created.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s sad that all of these people are losing their jobs, especially around the holidays. Maybe with the big tourism push in Atlanta, more jobs will be created.</p>
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		<title>By: Decaturguy</title>
		<link>http://www.bloglanta.com/archives/160#comment-537</link>
		<dc:creator>Decaturguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2005 19:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the long run, the closing of the plant will be a overall bonus for Doraville and Dekalb County.  An Atlantic Station type development there will produce far more economic activity than another plant of some sort.

The workers will be the losers however.  The County needs to help get these folks trained for other jobs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the long run, the closing of the plant will be a overall bonus for Doraville and Dekalb County.  An Atlantic Station type development there will produce far more economic activity than another plant of some sort.</p>
<p>The workers will be the losers however.  The County needs to help get these folks trained for other jobs.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph G</title>
		<link>http://www.bloglanta.com/archives/160#comment-536</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2005 04:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bloglanta.com/archives/160#comment-536</guid>
		<description>I live in Doraville, and if the GM plant closing negatively affects PDK Airport, I doubt many of my neighbors will be too disappointed (by that aspect of the closing, anyway).

I don't know what's going to happen when the plant closes, but this is potentially a big opportunity for the city &#38; for North Dekalb county.  The land it sits on has been largely industrial for half a century.  At this point, though, I am not convinced that an industrial plant is the best use of the land: it is at an important junction of several freeways and highways and also sits adjacent to a MARTA station.  I hope that Doraville &#38; Dekalb county don't blow this!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Doraville, and if the GM plant closing negatively affects PDK Airport, I doubt many of my neighbors will be too disappointed (by that aspect of the closing, anyway).</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what&#8217;s going to happen when the plant closes, but this is potentially a big opportunity for the city &amp; for North Dekalb county.  The land it sits on has been largely industrial for half a century.  At this point, though, I am not convinced that an industrial plant is the best use of the land: it is at an important junction of several freeways and highways and also sits adjacent to a MARTA station.  I hope that Doraville &amp; Dekalb county don&#8217;t blow this!</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://www.bloglanta.com/archives/160#comment-535</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2005 03:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with PDK is that they no longer adhere to the regulations governing the size and number of aircraft permitted to land.  Dekalb county government (and sleaze ball Vernon Jones) refuse to release the records on PDK even though they're public.  The entire thing is a fiasco and our corrupt elected officials are doing nothing to help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with PDK is that they no longer adhere to the regulations governing the size and number of aircraft permitted to land.  Dekalb county government (and sleaze ball Vernon Jones) refuse to release the records on PDK even though they&#8217;re public.  The entire thing is a fiasco and our corrupt elected officials are doing nothing to help.</p>
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