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	<title>Comments on: Dekalb likes the Oak in the Hood</title>
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		<title>By: decaturparent</title>
		<link>http://www.bloglanta.com/archives/166#comment-560</link>
		<dc:creator>decaturparent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 03:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, I'd agree it's East Atlanta that is about 5 years and $100K per house behind Oakhurst.  East Atlanta has a long way to go as far as gentrification.  The wine crawl has been around for years!!!!  Also, unlike East Atlanta, Oakhurst has an excellent, very high performing elementary school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, I&#8217;d agree it&#8217;s East Atlanta that is about 5 years and $100K per house behind Oakhurst.  East Atlanta has a long way to go as far as gentrification.  The wine crawl has been around for years!!!!  Also, unlike East Atlanta, Oakhurst has an excellent, very high performing elementary school.</p>
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		<title>By: Chad Magnussen</title>
		<link>http://www.bloglanta.com/archives/166#comment-559</link>
		<dc:creator>Chad Magnussen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2005 11:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason,

It's really hard to predict the future.

Gwinnett Place Mall has numerous restaurants and gas stations. I really don't think it's a one restaurant mall. Ditto for the other suburban malls as well. In fact, I am sure a couple can easily spend $100 for a meal without a problem in Gwinnett. Two months ago you could easily spend $100 to fill up the big SUV.

Atlanta's demographics are changing. Of course, the boomers are aging. Duh! One of the big question marks with the the Atlanta boomers is where they will live when they eventually retire. Will they continue to live in Atlanta? Who knows?

Two and three decades ago retirees tended to sell their homes and move, but I think that this trend has changed to some degree in recent years. Now, many retirees desire to be near their children and grandchildren. Of course, if they're not on speaking terms: ARIZONA HERE WE COME!!!

"Quirky" and "charm" may not be the buzz words. AFFORDABLE may be the the buzz word. DISPOSABLE INCOME, not disposable society, may be a key buzz word, too. Retirement in the future is going to be mucho expensive. Many future retirees will not have enough savings, generous pensions, and increasing health care costs will make the golden years less--"golden."

Once minority immigrant-friendly cities like New York, Miami, and Los Angeles are now largely unafforable. The huge real estate bubble in these cities is now drawing many minority immigrants to more affordable cities like Atlanta, Denver, Phoenix, and Dallas. I just read an article about this topic. Watch this trend closely.

If this trend continues, real estate prices will spike upward in Atlanta. Of course, jobs are a key ingredient as families cannot buy homes without a strong job market.

Atlanta has a highly-educated work force, so jobs should not be an impediment to future growth.


Chad</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s really hard to predict the future.</p>
<p>Gwinnett Place Mall has numerous restaurants and gas stations. I really don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a one restaurant mall. Ditto for the other suburban malls as well. In fact, I am sure a couple can easily spend $100 for a meal without a problem in Gwinnett. Two months ago you could easily spend $100 to fill up the big SUV.</p>
<p>Atlanta&#8217;s demographics are changing. Of course, the boomers are aging. Duh! One of the big question marks with the the Atlanta boomers is where they will live when they eventually retire. Will they continue to live in Atlanta? Who knows?</p>
<p>Two and three decades ago retirees tended to sell their homes and move, but I think that this trend has changed to some degree in recent years. Now, many retirees desire to be near their children and grandchildren. Of course, if they&#8217;re not on speaking terms: ARIZONA HERE WE COME!!!</p>
<p>&#8220;Quirky&#8221; and &#8220;charm&#8221; may not be the buzz words. AFFORDABLE may be the the buzz word. DISPOSABLE INCOME, not disposable society, may be a key buzz word, too. Retirement in the future is going to be mucho expensive. Many future retirees will not have enough savings, generous pensions, and increasing health care costs will make the golden years less&#8211;&#8221;golden.&#8221;</p>
<p>Once minority immigrant-friendly cities like New York, Miami, and Los Angeles are now largely unafforable. The huge real estate bubble in these cities is now drawing many minority immigrants to more affordable cities like Atlanta, Denver, Phoenix, and Dallas. I just read an article about this topic. Watch this trend closely.</p>
<p>If this trend continues, real estate prices will spike upward in Atlanta. Of course, jobs are a key ingredient as families cannot buy homes without a strong job market.</p>
<p>Atlanta has a highly-educated work force, so jobs should not be an impediment to future growth.</p>
<p>Chad</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.bloglanta.com/archives/166#comment-558</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2005 06:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So...in 20 or 30 years, think people will be discovering the charm and "quirky character" of Snelville or Alpharetta?

I fear that in our disposable society, we are also creating disposable neighborhoods and communities.  Or, I could be just a cynical refuge from the 770.  My kids will probably find Gwinnett Place Mall--with its ring of horseshoe shaped shopping centers with 1 resturant/1 gas station outparcels, and subdivisions of clapboard 80's mini-colonials--to be quite old-timey...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So&#8230;in 20 or 30 years, think people will be discovering the charm and &#8220;quirky character&#8221; of Snelville or Alpharetta?</p>
<p>I fear that in our disposable society, we are also creating disposable neighborhoods and communities.  Or, I could be just a cynical refuge from the 770.  My kids will probably find Gwinnett Place Mall&#8211;with its ring of horseshoe shaped shopping centers with 1 resturant/1 gas station outparcels, and subdivisions of clapboard 80&#8217;s mini-colonials&#8211;to be quite old-timey&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ted</title>
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		<dc:creator>ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 04:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, having just moved from East Atlanta to Oakhurst, I have to take issue. Single family residential housing costs in Oakhurst are significantly higher than in East Atlanta and the area is much further along in gentrification. Additionally, East Atlanta's commercial scene is stagnating a bit. (Iris and Good News Cafe both closed in the last few months.) In Oakhurst, however, the wine crawl has been around for a while and the businesses appear stable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, having just moved from East Atlanta to Oakhurst, I have to take issue. Single family residential housing costs in Oakhurst are significantly higher than in East Atlanta and the area is much further along in gentrification. Additionally, East Atlanta&#8217;s commercial scene is stagnating a bit. (Iris and Good News Cafe both closed in the last few months.) In Oakhurst, however, the wine crawl has been around for a while and the businesses appear stable.</p>
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		<title>By: CM</title>
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		<dc:creator>CM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2005 19:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Oakhurst had its first wine crawl in 2003 or 2004.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Oakhurst had its first wine crawl in 2003 or 2004.</p>
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		<title>By: Chad Magnussen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chad Magnussen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2005 15:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While the gentrification of older, established in-town areas can have positive aesthetic benefits, it can also drive real estate prices through the roof. Virginia Highlands is a classic example. Midtown is a classic example, too.

Younger folks are essentially being priced out of the American dream of owning a house. In-town Atlanta home prices are still "somewhat" reasonable compared to many cities on the east and west coasts but they still, nonetheless, have hefty price tags. Very, very modest bunglaows selling for $400,000 is not pocket change.

Sadly, condominiums are about the only in-town housing alternative to families with incomes under $200,000. At least from my perspective, real estate in Atlanta, as elsewhere in the country, is in a bubble territory.

Yeah, some of Atlanta's older established neighborhoods may have the code words of: character and charm, but many of these homes need costly major renovations. Many sagging porches and crumbling foundations are quite obvious and apparent, while taking stolls in these older neighborhoods. Within a few short years these older areas are going to be major eyesores, if the owners are not taking frequent trips to Home Depot.

Oak this and Oak that may be currently the in vogue "hot" neighborhoods, but rotting oak may be the destiny for these aging neighborhoods.

Many of these homes are HOT only because of: location, location, location. If these homes continue to deterioate as many currently are, even location, location, location will not sell these rotting abodes.


Chad</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While the gentrification of older, established in-town areas can have positive aesthetic benefits, it can also drive real estate prices through the roof. Virginia Highlands is a classic example. Midtown is a classic example, too.</p>
<p>Younger folks are essentially being priced out of the American dream of owning a house. In-town Atlanta home prices are still &#8220;somewhat&#8221; reasonable compared to many cities on the east and west coasts but they still, nonetheless, have hefty price tags. Very, very modest bunglaows selling for $400,000 is not pocket change.</p>
<p>Sadly, condominiums are about the only in-town housing alternative to families with incomes under $200,000. At least from my perspective, real estate in Atlanta, as elsewhere in the country, is in a bubble territory.</p>
<p>Yeah, some of Atlanta&#8217;s older established neighborhoods may have the code words of: character and charm, but many of these homes need costly major renovations. Many sagging porches and crumbling foundations are quite obvious and apparent, while taking stolls in these older neighborhoods. Within a few short years these older areas are going to be major eyesores, if the owners are not taking frequent trips to Home Depot.</p>
<p>Oak this and Oak that may be currently the in vogue &#8220;hot&#8221; neighborhoods, but rotting oak may be the destiny for these aging neighborhoods.</p>
<p>Many of these homes are HOT only because of: location, location, location. If these homes continue to deterioate as many currently are, even location, location, location will not sell these rotting abodes.</p>
<p>Chad</p>
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