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	<title>Comments on: Atlanta Seeks Conventions!</title>
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		<title>By: Connie</title>
		<link>http://www.bloglanta.com/archives/19#comment-33</link>
		<dc:creator>Connie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2004 19:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the comment that Atlanta needs to embrace its real history.  A good place to start is Auburn Ave.  I know progress has been made but it still has a lot of rundown buildings that if restored would enhance the historical significance of civil rights movement.

Another problem in the city is that Atlanta citizens are not friendly.  Efforts to encourge people to smile vs the constant look of disgust would be helpful.  Why would visitors want to venture out into a city where walking on the streets they only recieve looks of hostility? What ever happened to "Hello", "You look lost can I help you?", or "have a nice day"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the comment that Atlanta needs to embrace its real history.  A good place to start is Auburn Ave.  I know progress has been made but it still has a lot of rundown buildings that if restored would enhance the historical significance of civil rights movement.</p>
<p>Another problem in the city is that Atlanta citizens are not friendly.  Efforts to encourge people to smile vs the constant look of disgust would be helpful.  Why would visitors want to venture out into a city where walking on the streets they only recieve looks of hostility? What ever happened to &#8220;Hello&#8221;, &#8220;You look lost can I help you?&#8221;, or &#8220;have a nice day&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.bloglanta.com/archives/19#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2004 18:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I honestly don't understand the idea that Atlanta isn't southern.  Culturally, Atlanta's southern character can be seen in almost everyone you meet and is obviously reflected in the city's development.  Furthermore, there are plenty of places in the metro area that are very southern indeed.  Sure, Atlanta may be somewhat less southern than, say, Winder, and you may get a lower grade gravy biscuit in town than out, but the idea that Atlanta isn't southern seems ridiculous to me.  It hasn't been Florida-ized yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I honestly don&#8217;t understand the idea that Atlanta isn&#8217;t southern.  Culturally, Atlanta&#8217;s southern character can be seen in almost everyone you meet and is obviously reflected in the city&#8217;s development.  Furthermore, there are plenty of places in the metro area that are very southern indeed.  Sure, Atlanta may be somewhat less southern than, say, Winder, and you may get a lower grade gravy biscuit in town than out, but the idea that Atlanta isn&#8217;t southern seems ridiculous to me.  It hasn&#8217;t been Florida-ized yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted</title>
		<link>http://www.bloglanta.com/archives/19#comment-31</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2004 14:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bloglanta.com/archives/19#comment-31</guid>
		<description>I agree that Atlanta has an identity crisis. The city's original reason for existence was it's central location vis a vis railroads. The railroads have been replaced by the world's busiest airport. Thus we remain a transportation hub, but we still do not embrace a unique enough identity.

I have to take issues with this statement however, "Any Northerner will tell you it's too Southern." How is that possible unless you are a Northener that has no idea what the South is about? Oh wait a minute. . .
Seriously, there is almost nothing "Southern" about the City of Atlanta.

But, I also dispute the notion that you can't be Southern and a city at the same time. Take a stroll through Charleston or New Orleans or Richmond or Memphis.

Atlanta has to continue to build both amenities that are attractive and useful to conventioneers, and to preserve the unique things about its heritage.

When German companies come to town and rebuild the Margarte Mitchell House three times so that convention visitors can see something sort of Tara-like, I don't think we get anywhere. She called it a dump and there was nothing left of the original building when they began. It's artificial, hollow, an attempt at a romanticized Atlanta that never and doesn't exist.

When and if we save places like Paschal's, however, it seems to me we have done good. We've preserved part of a really essential and important part of our recent history. My neighborhood association will be giving tours to commemorate the Battle of Atlanta this summer, which started in East Atlanta. Tours at Oakwood Cemetary have stepped up which I think helps promote the real Atlanta. But Atlantans have to support and promote those kinds of initiatives, which means educating ourselves about our own city and then promoting it.

I seems to me that the struggle is between what Atlanta can do to be honest to its own real history and what private enterprise will do to attract people and make money based on steriotyped outside visions of Atlanta.

Atlanta needs some time on the therapy couch in order to come to grips with who it is. We're the middle aged business executive that has made a lot of money but has kind ignored their family and is suffering an identity crisis. Landlocked aquariums and high tech coke museums are fun but
we also need to be able to visit the old jerk soda fountains where Pendleton's agents pulled real Vanilla cokes and to see the Woolworth lunch counter where brave young men tried to right wrongs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that Atlanta has an identity crisis. The city&#8217;s original reason for existence was it&#8217;s central location vis a vis railroads. The railroads have been replaced by the world&#8217;s busiest airport. Thus we remain a transportation hub, but we still do not embrace a unique enough identity.</p>
<p>I have to take issues with this statement however, &#8220;Any Northerner will tell you it&#8217;s too Southern.&#8221; How is that possible unless you are a Northener that has no idea what the South is about? Oh wait a minute. . .<br />
Seriously, there is almost nothing &#8220;Southern&#8221; about the City of Atlanta.</p>
<p>But, I also dispute the notion that you can&#8217;t be Southern and a city at the same time. Take a stroll through Charleston or New Orleans or Richmond or Memphis.</p>
<p>Atlanta has to continue to build both amenities that are attractive and useful to conventioneers, and to preserve the unique things about its heritage.</p>
<p>When German companies come to town and rebuild the Margarte Mitchell House three times so that convention visitors can see something sort of Tara-like, I don&#8217;t think we get anywhere. She called it a dump and there was nothing left of the original building when they began. It&#8217;s artificial, hollow, an attempt at a romanticized Atlanta that never and doesn&#8217;t exist.</p>
<p>When and if we save places like Paschal&#8217;s, however, it seems to me we have done good. We&#8217;ve preserved part of a really essential and important part of our recent history. My neighborhood association will be giving tours to commemorate the Battle of Atlanta this summer, which started in East Atlanta. Tours at Oakwood Cemetary have stepped up which I think helps promote the real Atlanta. But Atlantans have to support and promote those kinds of initiatives, which means educating ourselves about our own city and then promoting it.</p>
<p>I seems to me that the struggle is between what Atlanta can do to be honest to its own real history and what private enterprise will do to attract people and make money based on steriotyped outside visions of Atlanta.</p>
<p>Atlanta needs some time on the therapy couch in order to come to grips with who it is. We&#8217;re the middle aged business executive that has made a lot of money but has kind ignored their family and is suffering an identity crisis. Landlocked aquariums and high tech coke museums are fun but<br />
we also need to be able to visit the old jerk soda fountains where Pendleton&#8217;s agents pulled real Vanilla cokes and to see the Woolworth lunch counter where brave young men tried to right wrongs.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.bloglanta.com/archives/19#comment-30</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2004 04:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The more I think about it, it's not so much that Atlanta has no identity so much as it refuses to embrace that identity.  Here's how it seems to work: because it's southern, Atlanta is ambivalent about being a city, and because it's a city, Atlanta is ambivalent about being southern.  This, of course, doesn't change the fact that it is both southern and a city.  It stands to reason that embracing its southernness would cost Atlanta nothing, and, with all the history of the city, a good argument could be made it would actually be quite an asset.  Who wants to live in a wishy-washy, identity-crisis-ridden city anyway?  Or visit it for that matter?  Anyhow, that's my Confederate expatriate take on the situation.  (That sounds nice, doesn't it--"Confederate expatriate"?  See, you CAN embrace your southern identity whilst distancing yourself from all the negative aspects.  Alright, enough of that ridiculousness.)  I'm curious what your thoughts on this are, seeing as we're in opposite positions, me being in Boston now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The more I think about it, it&#8217;s not so much that Atlanta has no identity so much as it refuses to embrace that identity.  Here&#8217;s how it seems to work: because it&#8217;s southern, Atlanta is ambivalent about being a city, and because it&#8217;s a city, Atlanta is ambivalent about being southern.  This, of course, doesn&#8217;t change the fact that it is both southern and a city.  It stands to reason that embracing its southernness would cost Atlanta nothing, and, with all the history of the city, a good argument could be made it would actually be quite an asset.  Who wants to live in a wishy-washy, identity-crisis-ridden city anyway?  Or visit it for that matter?  Anyhow, that&#8217;s my Confederate expatriate take on the situation.  (That sounds nice, doesn&#8217;t it&#8211;&#8221;Confederate expatriate&#8221;?  See, you CAN embrace your southern identity whilst distancing yourself from all the negative aspects.  Alright, enough of that ridiculousness.)  I&#8217;m curious what your thoughts on this are, seeing as we&#8217;re in opposite positions, me being in Boston now.</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren Kenworthy</title>
		<link>http://www.bloglanta.com/archives/19#comment-29</link>
		<dc:creator>Lauren Kenworthy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2004 00:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bloglanta.com/archives/19#comment-29</guid>
		<description>Robert,

Thanks for your nice comment. I'm happy to have helped and think your blog turned out great.  A few notes of correction, however.  The GWCC is not the largest convention center in the country but is in the top 5 largest.  Also, I think the relationship with CAP was a little mistated in that our ongoing cooperation is key, moreso than it needs to be increased.  We've enjoyed a fantastic working relationship with them and are mutually supportive of a revitalized downtown.

Thanks Robert.  Keep up the good work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert,</p>
<p>Thanks for your nice comment. I&#8217;m happy to have helped and think your blog turned out great.  A few notes of correction, however.  The GWCC is not the largest convention center in the country but is in the top 5 largest.  Also, I think the relationship with CAP was a little mistated in that our ongoing cooperation is key, moreso than it needs to be increased.  We&#8217;ve enjoyed a fantastic working relationship with them and are mutually supportive of a revitalized downtown.</p>
<p>Thanks Robert.  Keep up the good work!</p>
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		<title>By: Cap'n Ken</title>
		<link>http://www.bloglanta.com/archives/19#comment-28</link>
		<dc:creator>Cap'n Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2004 23:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bloglanta.com/archives/19#comment-28</guid>
		<description>Don't - in all seriousness - overlook the impact that strip clubs have in attracting conventions to Atlanta. The city has a reputation as a great (read: all nude) strip club town, and although it's on the hush-hush, convention planners know they'll get big crowds when they set up in Atlanta because of the Cheetah, Pink Pony, etc.

It would be interesting to know how the demise of The Gold Club impacted convention business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t - in all seriousness - overlook the impact that strip clubs have in attracting conventions to Atlanta. The city has a reputation as a great (read: all nude) strip club town, and although it&#8217;s on the hush-hush, convention planners know they&#8217;ll get big crowds when they set up in Atlanta because of the Cheetah, Pink Pony, etc.</p>
<p>It would be interesting to know how the demise of The Gold Club impacted convention business.</p>
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