A Partial History of Why We Have So Few Nightclubs
Ever wonder why downtown isn’t teaming with clubs despite the hotel presence? Ever wonder why no club survives very long in town?
The lack of places to play have been a big discussion among Jazz musicians in the Atlanta Jazz Forum and now a theory has been proposed.
Dan Turner is a local developer, builder, and piano man. When presented with the scene of a woman who came downtown to hear Jazz and had a terrible experience, he began to delve into what went wrong: (These are editted excerpts from his post, which, in it’s original form is a little bit spicier)
“My time playing Atlanta started in the very early 60’s when I was 9….playing in a few of the nightclubs that my father owned. I got into the circuit and hit his clubs as well as some of the joints that were within walking distance of each other. Sure…they were strip clubs; however for the 3 years that I played each weekend …jazzers were passed around from the Zebra, Domino, Club Peachtree and a host of others within a block or two of each other. Going from one club to another, I saw a lot of familiar faces that were simply walking back and forth.
“In my opinion…and it extends back to those years playing with really good players (and GREAT LOOKING EXOTIC DANCERS!!); now coupled with my role as a land planner…there are a few folks to blame for the fiasco in Atlanta: Sam Massell, John Portman, & Tom Cousins.
“Massell picked up from his predecessor to “clean up Atlanta” by closing down clubs by raising the dispensing fees. The Chamber of Commerce gathered together with the powers to be and decided on John Portman to devise a way to circumvent the sidewalks with the tunnels and tubes that deliver you away from the clubs on the street and right into the propietary clubs of the hotels. Ditto with Tom Cousins who was just the most fortunate guy to have MARTA wind up at his major complexes, and everyone else that went into the same mode of “cleaning up Atlanta” took something away from the night clubs that kept them alive …making a buck selling liquor.
“There was a lot to be said for a bar with a great band that all of a sudden had to be able to cook food. That ordinance wiped out the little hole in the wall joints….the same set up that thrives in New Orleans. There were ordinances enacted against Neon lighting. The distance between the bar stools and the stage. The decibel rating. Smoking/non-smoking designated square footage. Restrooms that had to meet a minimum square footage and then the ADA (Americans with Disability Act) that although a great thing…was not allowed to be grandfathered in for established businesses.
“It got to be too expensive to be in a business that the City wanted to see leave in order to make the place hospitable to Conventions. The city [departments] were shaking down club owners and the Bud Turners, Chic Hendrix’s and Sam Jensen’s just closed shoppe.
“It’s still not a hospitable city… with the panhandlling and the blocks of no-mans land at night. The clubs and bars are found inside the complexes or within a $30 taxi ride from the center of the action…it’s just spread out and too thin.
“What little bit of fire that was there went away with a purpose. The jazz clubs have no competition…and sometimes human nature takes over with regards to how they would treat a customer since they were the only show in town…or walking distance to another Atlanta attraction. Or they’re not making enough to pay the help, talent, and nightly nut…so you’re getting anyone barely breathing to wait your table for minimums. Without the competition, there’s not much reason to improve…or if they’re already into the failure mode (which happens much too often), they’ve just given up.
“Atlanta had a great little complex at one time….Underground Atlanta…before Rouse. There were a half dozen player joints within sound of each other….I can remember many a tawdry Saturday AFTERNOON at the Apothecary watching Paul Mitchell and Neal Starkey, et all wailing away to a pretty full house. Tired of that? Walk across the street to Dante’s and then on over to Reds and a few other joints that the names don’t come apparent right now…and then start that circuit over again.
“Underground wasn’t a threat to Atlanta during the 60s and 70s..but they (whoever THEY were) decided to “fix it” anyway. It’s a brave step every time someone opens a club to sponsor jazz players…but, foremost in mind, in order to keep that door open, they have to sell enough liquor. The players are almost always way down the food chain as to priorities, but it’s a huge investment to open a joint to meet all the codes and ordinances; pay the fees; get the final permit and then try to market with the leftover cash. Some places are doomed on opening night and everything that you described doesn’t make it that appealing for a return visit.
“Until a chosen few decided to “Clean Up Atlanta” and when they got rid of the clubs….they got rid of the talent and the incentives for future clubs.”
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It should be pointed out that to some degree, Massell did this same thing again a few years ago in Buckhead. He wanted to chase the club owners out to make the area more attractive for the big condo towers that now dominate what was one of America’s best known party spots. With the help of the City Council, he again succeeded in killing off lots of Atlanta nightlife. Maybe, Massell likes money better than fun… Or at least he thinks if everyone has money they can afford to go have fun somewhere else.
February 13th, 2008 at 10:52 pm
Wow, this is a great article. I never connected the dots between downtown “redevelopment” and bar/club closings. There’s a slightly different take on those trends in Ed Negri’s book about his Fairlie-Poplar restaurant, Herren’s.
Hopefully all those GSU students will force some changes since they already created the environment for two 24-hour diners to open as well as late-nite joints like Side Bar.
December 15th, 2008 at 6:18 pm
Great article, I wondered what the problem was in atlanta, now I get it. Ironically the only clubs that last in Atlanta are strip clubs (ugh)